Comments on: What if GlobalGrind fails?

By: Rushmore Drive + Global Grind: A Good Match? | Black Web 2.0

Rushmore Drive + Global Grind: A Good Match? | Black Web 2.0 — Tue, 03 Feb 2009 21:56:29 +0000

[...] be a match made in heaven. Global Grind has been struggling to find a proper visual aesthetic or site strategy since launch, and Rushmore Drive has taken its knocks including declining traffic numbers as they [...]

By: tiffany

tiffany — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 12:20:57 +0000

I think VC will dry up for a time, but that doesn’t mean urban / black sites are doomed to fail. Most will just bootstrap things as they always have. That’s a healthy thing, really.

But maybe there *is* an issue with the niche. In order to have a successful site, you need audience and ADVERTISERS. To get the latter, you have to have the audience that advertisers want to reach.

If my online crew is any indication, the affluent urban audience are the raisins in the rice pudding at Facebook, Twitter, Pownce, Flickr,Vox, and Friendfeed. We’ve got a foot in the young(-ish) urban world, but we’re not all about hip-hop. We want smart content, smart conversations, a smart community, and some relevance to our lives. Most major urban and/or black sites don’t fit the bill IMO. And I suspect this focus on a single definition of urbanity and a single definition of blackness is the reason.

By: Solacetech

Solacetech — Sat, 31 May 2008 03:12:44 +0000

I didn’t take the post as a bash,no worries there. Just as a blogger it’s hard to find sites that promote black bloggers and urban topics. That’s why I was so glad to find GG (thanx to you!), and so sad to here about it’s issues. I love your posts and the people who stay in the struggle with you!

By: Eric Taylor

Eric Taylor — Thu, 29 May 2008 23:44:21 +0000

GlobalGrind won’t fold or fail. Neither will eVIPlist.com. eVIPlist.com is a Digg clone that happens to work with the urban market. Knowing and marketing to your audience is the key. eVIPlist.com has the advantage of being involved with the Urban market from a grass roots level, ie. “parties and special events”. This involvement allows eVIPlist.com to brand itself amongst this demographic of urban trendsetters and influencers. These individuals, especially bloggers and content publishers, accept the new 2.0 platform of sharing and aggregating urban content on eVIPlist.com and utilize the site to drive traffic to their sites. Its a win-win-win. A win for bloggers and content providers who have access to an engaged and active urban audience, a win for advertisers who want to reach this audience and a win for eVIPlist.com that facilitates the platform for this interaction.

By: Angela

Angela — Wed, 28 May 2008 21:09:08 +0000

@Clyde, thanks!
@Solacetech, not sure why you took the post so personal but I do think that it poses a good question which is “IF it did fail would its failure hinder innovation and VC funding?” Don’t take this post as a bash either, if you follow this site then you should know that majority of what we report is positive and supportive however I think we always need to look at all sides. Also keep in mind any negativity in the above post is a rumor and has not been reported by us as fact.

I think issues like these are good to discuss, we can all see even from the participation on the comments on this post how passionate we all are about the web. Good stuff.

By: Solacetech

Solacetech — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:22:49 +0000

I find this post disturbing. I gladly, manually, ping GG everytime I post on my blog. Actually if I forget to do so, I have a bad numbers day. They just opened their api to Facebook and added great new features. Getting on Facebook is like getting your video on MTV= Success! I’m not sure of the details but GG has enough eyeballs to at least get funding if not an advertising deal to hire more developers… Thanx Markus, you just saddened my day…

By: Clyde Smith

Clyde Smith — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:10:25 +0000

Thanks, Angela, I’m probably too paranoid for this business but I’m working on it!

I just added Urban 2.0 to my bloglines account. Thanks!

And keep up the good work. I definitely follow you guys but don’t always have comments.

By: DJ Hyjak

DJ Hyjak — Wed, 28 May 2008 16:25:22 +0000

There are many problems with Global Grind. How are they getting the word out for one? I watched Runs House and saw that sad attempt at promotion, most of the people i know didn’t even pay enuff attention to check out the site. I have not seen any promotion on the sites that the Urban audience visit. Then there is their interface, it sucks. If you are gonna be a digg copy then be a proper copy, digg has done the work for you already. And lets not forget that Digg has Kevin Rose, and internet / tech celeb that brought his fans with him and has drawn more users thru his Diggnation web show.

If i had a third of their budget i could make a digg rip off that kills what they have developed. Where is the leveraging of the Social networks, were is the video cast, were are the hyper local promotions in cites with large urban(black) bases?

The worst part of Global Grind is that they have the chance to be bigger the digg because the urban and hiphop user base is really larger then the tech niche that uses digg.

By: Angela

Angela — Wed, 28 May 2008 12:57:25 +0000

@ Clyde Yes I believe that is where Markus pulled from an must have forgotten to credit the source. Hope you know it is no intentional disrespect , we love you site! Markus is on vacay which is why I am responding on his behalf.

Another source which also pulled directly from you Clyde was Urban 2.0.

By: Naija Man

Naija Man — Wed, 28 May 2008 11:16:35 +0000

mmm…not sure one bad apple spoils the bunch (to borrow from the Osmonds). Venture Capital firms expect a third of the companies they invest in to fail, a third to fall below expectations and the last third to meet expectations – expectations of usually 6-10times the money invested. For VC’s it’s all about the benjamins baby (to borrow from Diddy)
I think the problem with a lot of BLACK (I hate the word urban) sites is that we lack ambition. Black people are not a minority…we are not a niche. We are not a niche in terms of numbers or the influence we have on popular culture. There are more people of African origin on the planet than of European origin. Anyway that aside…many sites out there are “ME TOO’s” . They offer what everyone else is offering no more, no less. I can do “blogs”..ME TOO, I can share “Photos”…ME TOO. Nothing that changes the game.
We change the game in so many other areas like in music…but when it comes to technology and the internet we seem lost for ideas. HIPHOP was like nothing else, and today it’s influence has changed the world. It was invented by black people.
Likewise we should concentrate on developing business models that change the landscape and take the competition to the Facebooks’ and Googles of this world.
We shouldn’t be looking just to build black/urban versions of Facebook/Digg…these already exist and they will always do better than latecomers to the market.
Technology provides us with so many new opportunities, we are connected in so many different and interesting ways. We need to use that to build innovative business that we can take to the world, like we did HIPHOP…it doesnt matter if you are black or white (to borrow from MJ) the effect of your business on people should be the same…awesome….Come up with such ideas and any VC will back you…Sh*T I’ll back you.